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sakura_kyoshi
Oct. 4th, 2009 01:40 am (UTC)
Thank you for sharing!
madmiko
Oct. 4th, 2009 02:11 am (UTC)
Well. I'm not sure exactly what I think about it. I would have liked a better bridge between the old anime and the beginning of the new one. It was great to see so many characters in one episode, but it felt ... rushed to me. I just hope they don't rush through Kagura's death scene next time. Love the opening, hate the ending. Those are just my initial thoughts.
knittingknots
Oct. 4th, 2009 02:19 am (UTC)
I liked the very last pic in the ending, where Inu and Kagome's hands are connected by the red thread of destiny...now that was a cool and meaningful image. But yeah, I like the opening a lot more.

It will feel rushed at times. They have to put a good third of the manga in one season. There will be lots of things being condensed.
madmiko
Oct. 4th, 2009 02:36 am (UTC)
Yes, I liked the very last scene, too. I just thought there should be a whole lot more of Kagome in the ending. (Heck, it's not like she's the one to end it all or anything. LOL!) There was only one other flash of her face right before that, I think. I also liked the scene of Sango and Miroku. The rest of it ...

I knew it would be rushed, but I was hoping it wouldn't feel rushed. I think I'd prefer that they pick and choose events rather than just plowing right through them. Other than the first scene with the gratuitous sit for the kiddies, I did enjoy the way both Inuyasha and Kagome came across in this. His growth in his willingness to trust Kagura at his back and Kagome's compassion and understanding of Kohaku's feelings--that was great!
knittingknots
Oct. 4th, 2009 02:42 am (UTC)
That really wasnt gratuitous...it was in the manga in that scene...so I give'm brownie points for not adding a non-canon sit!

This is the part of the manga where we see Inu maturing, a whole lot. He's definitely far from the same guy he was at the beginning of the manga. And I am pleased we start off with Inu as he is with some of the rough edges off him...Yay!
madmiko
Oct. 4th, 2009 03:02 am (UTC)
Heh heh! Yep, that one was in the manga, but then again, I tend to think most of the sits in the manga were gratuitous and simply there to satisfy the need boys seem to have for Three Stoogish, slapstick humor. I think RT played to her audience. ^_~ But, like you, I am thankful they didn't add more in this one episode, and I hope we don't see more than the manga had.

knittingknots
Oct. 4th, 2009 03:10 am (UTC)
And more and more of the sits from this point on aren't seen as Inu being out of control (although there are a few in the manga left to come when he's getting hotheaded) but more Kagome being a teen and petulant, like this one was. She's pretty calm when it's Inu losing it; but she's always losing it with the others...
landofthekwt
Oct. 5th, 2009 03:45 am (UTC)
The Kind Boy episode which they skipped way ahead convinced the girl friends that IY was the kind person in the relationship and that Kagome was the one who controlled by violence. After that they never questioned IY and Kagome's relationship again. Kagome even comes to the conclusion that IY is a kind boy. It shows effectively who is dominant in their relationship. Kagome is scary and IY is terrified of her.
knittingknots
Oct. 5th, 2009 04:04 am (UTC)
I don't think he's really terrified of her, as much as he doesn't like to get caught in one of her temper tantrums. I don't think he realized the depth of her stress, and she reacted a lot stronger than he expected, but I don't see that as terror. My husband doesn't like when my temper gets away from me, either. He backs up as much as Inu did with Kagome...but he's definitely not terrified.

(I'm told I turn bright red, and throw my arms back and my chest sticks out like a chicken...LOL)

The girls were kind of turning the tables on what Kagome said about the relationship...but even though Inu doesn't like to be the brunt of Kagome's temper, he never failed to keep coming for her, even if he thought it might get her angry. Because he was her kind boy. Because he loved her.

I don't see Kagome as alpha to his beta. I see them as a well-matched pair, both highly stubborn and determined and mutually working together -two intense people who eventually learn to pull together and save each other over and over again.

Edited at 2009-10-05 04:07 am (UTC)
landofthekwt
Oct. 5th, 2009 04:51 am (UTC)
I don't think women realize how much you terrify men.
knittingknots
Oct. 5th, 2009 06:19 am (UTC)
That is a possibility, although I might be nuancing terrify differently than you; I have a strong aversion to things that terrify me...

Edited at 2009-10-05 06:21 am (UTC)
madmiko
Oct. 5th, 2009 11:48 am (UTC)
"I don't see Kagome as alpha to his beta. I see them as a well-matched pair, both highly stubborn and determined and mutually working together -two intense people who eventually learn to pull together and save each other over and over again."

I agree.

Truthfully, the "sits" really never bothered me at all until I realized some people saw them as Kagome being cruel. I'm quite sure that was never RT's intention. It's not a brand of humor I subscribe to, but I realize that's the whole purpose of having them in the story at all.

Edited to use another icon. ^_~

Edited at 2009-10-05 11:49 am (UTC)
madmiko
Oct. 5th, 2009 11:16 am (UTC)
Hehheh! I don't think Inuyasha was terrified of Kagome any more than I would say Miroku was terrified of Sango. If he was, then he would have to be truly petrified of Kikyou, who had actually shot a sacred arrow at him with malicious and deadly intent and for all intents and purposes ended his life, yet left him hanging in limbo between the worlds of the living and the dead. If he was terrified of Kagome, he wouldn't provoke her temper.

I also don't think she is any more dominant in their relationship than any other Japanese woman in her marriage. They both have very strong personalities and they clash sometimes, but they also bow to each other's strengths. Now Kikyou completely dictated the relationship between her and Inuyasha. She refused him the male role of protector and therefore would never have let him grow in strength and confidence.

That is my perception of the relationships, and I realize that as a man, you have a different perspective. It's always very, very interesting to me to hear how things come across to you. ^_^
landofthekwt
Oct. 5th, 2009 01:17 pm (UTC)
Kikyou was always able to get her own way in more subtle ways than Kagome. The sits do not terrify IY. It is the menacing looks and tone of voice that terrify IY. That is why the bride is veiled so that the husband will not be menaced by the evil eye. It is the "look" that promises much pain that scares men more than any physical. I do not think of IY as a beta. I hate the whole alpha-beta thing. I know that RT is doing part of it for laughs the demon afraid of a little Japanese girl. I think it does reflect the true dynamic of their relationship which does not change until after Kikyou is gone.
knittingknots
Oct. 5th, 2009 10:03 pm (UTC)
You are right about the anger underneath that does not end until after Kikyou's passing. Of course, Kikyou was also past her teenage Katy-kaboom phase, which Kagome is solidly in the middle of...(although I don't know if Kikyou ever lost control like that! but girls often go through it.)


But the only other times Kagome gets that riled up after Kikyou's death and chapt. 494 is when she went to take her high school exam, and then she ends up hugging Inu for being her hero after all...

She doesn't really control by temper tantrum most of the time...unlike my grandmother....she was a dish breaker when my grandfather teased her too badly....
madmiko
Oct. 7th, 2009 01:10 am (UTC)
I always thought the bride was veiled so the father could pull a switcheroo and get the ugly daughter off his hands. ^_~

Hmmm. Kikyou wasn't really more subtle, she was just always able to be calm because she knew she was in complete control of their relationship. Because of his feelings of unworthiness, (and a case of Madonna worship), Inuyasha accepted whatever she handed him without question or complaint, whereas he always felt equal or even superior to Kagome and able to be himself in all his rude, crude, obnoxious glory. ^_^ He put Kikyou on a pedestal, which I don't think is unusual for a younger man/older woman situation.
xagzan
Oct. 4th, 2009 03:46 am (UTC)
One season? So the 26 episode rumor is true?
knittingknots
Oct. 4th, 2009 04:12 am (UTC)
It wasn't a rumour...it was announced in Japan at the same time the series was announced. 26 episodes. They got one season to complete it. I am hoping they take their time with certain sections...
xagzan
Oct. 4th, 2009 04:33 am (UTC)
Well, the rest of the internet has yet to realize that it's not a rumor then. But damn, this makes me hesitant to watch the episode, to get back into it again if it's just gonna be a quick trip. One of the things I liked most about the first series was its length, because that allowed it to have non-main-lot-related episodes, which gave it sort of a relaxing, peaceful tone. Even the tense main story conflicts that showed up from time to time didn't involve too much brain activity, while still being incredibly involving. But now if it's rushed in 26 episodes, well, I can't imagine how peaceful it can be. It'll be more like FMA Brotherhood or Code Geass in terms of pacing, so ridiculously fast I won't even be able to take a breath.

Plus, I wonder how they will do the final battle in just one or two episodes.
rya_kelley
Oct. 4th, 2009 02:51 am (UTC)
Wow, they crammed a kit of manga into that episode.
fenikkusuken
Oct. 4th, 2009 04:47 am (UTC)

Here's the internat'l link at AnimeShout for anyone not in the US.

Maybe firsttweak could think about hosting a weekly post-episode discussion forum?
knittingknots
Oct. 4th, 2009 05:32 am (UTC)
Now that would be an interesting idea...hadn't thought of that...tonight's probably too late, but may start a thread in the morning....It'd be a good place for it, and it has a larger flist than me personally....
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